2 4 0 T U R B O . C O M
D A V E ' S   V O L V O   P A G E
240 Alternator Mod Page

     UPDATED: January 16, 2022                       CONTACT       
D  O  M  A  I  N  S
davebarton.com PrancingMoose.com 240Turbo.com
Payments and Policies
New Items
Cool Volvo Products 240 Modes & Fixes
Volvo
                  Stickers Volvo
                  SteeringWheel Labels
Volvo Wire Harnesses Volvo Harness Parts, Terminals, Connectors.
Volvo Prancing Moose Stickers Other Car Stickers Volvo Relays and Sensors. Volvo 960 coil harness repairs.
Volvo Underhood, Body and Chassis Sticker and
                  Labels Other Car Stickers 740, 760, 780 Turbo Boost Faces Volvo Custom Black or White Faces.
240 Black Door Vinyl Stripes. Volvo 240 Window Scrapers 740, 940 odometer repair gears and instructions. Volvo 240 Odometer Repair Gears and Instructions.
Wheel Center Cap Overlays. Volvo Group A Racing Articles Prancing Moose, Volvo R-SPORT Horn Buttons, replica Alpina horn buttons 240 Hydraulic
                  Clutch Volvo Adjustable Voltage Regulators
Volvo Meet Photos. Electric Fan Diagrams Volvo
                  tropical fan clutches SoCal Area Salvage Yards Side Markers on 240s and 740s Modified 240s
Unleaded Race Fuel at the
                  PUMP
B26FT Stroker
                  Build
Volvo
                  Vacuum Diagrams
Dave's 245
                  Specs Used Volvo Stuff 240 big brakes
R-Sport
                  apparel from Cafe Press
Prancing Moose Apparel from Cafe
                  Press 240 Suspension Mods Favorite Links

Send me an email if you have questions or can contribute to any info here.
CONTACT

N A V I G A T E  T H I S  P A G E
How Do Alternators Work?
Undercharging Bosch Alternators
Denso Alternator
Mechman Alternator Upgrade #1
Mechman Alternator Upgrade #2
V-Belt Failures
Belt Slip
LARGE CABLES 240 V-Belt Sizes
Alternator Idler Pulley Project Details
Fitting a Universal High-Performance Alternator

For details on the development of this project, scroll down or CLICK HERE.

 
240 Alternator Idler Pulley Bracket for red block B21/B23/B230
for use with a high-performance alternator.

CLICK HERE: Alternator Idler Pulley Project Details

Installation guide: CLICK HERE

Questions?  Please read this page or CONTACT me with questions: CLICK HERE.
 

IN STOCK
240 Steel Idler Pulley Bracket with
black powder coat.  Price: $129.00
Order Quantity:
:
When done shopping please select shipping below.

AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE WITH ABOVE BRACKET.
Grade 10 Bolts Set (3 pieces): M8 x 1.25 x 75 mm long, high strength Grade 10. Set of 3. Washers included. $5.00

Order Quantity:
:
When done shopping please select shipping below.


AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE WITH ABOVE BRACKET.
Steel Spacers Set (3 pieces): 1.5 inches long. Seamless steel. $10.00

Order Quantity:
:
When done shopping please select shipping below.



USA Shipping. 
Please Select Shipping and click "Add to Cart"        
  :

CANADA or Other INTERNATIONAL Shipping.
Please Select Shipping and click "Add to Cart"
  :

 
View Cart or Check Out
please click below button:
:


Here's a video of this idler pulley bracket in action during the early prototype testing phase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O9fC3fR4ac







How does an Alternator Work?
Here's an entertaining video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfGm0gZhgCc





What to Do about your Old
Under-Charging Volvo Alternator
 
Here's an interesting video of the complete restoration of an old Bosch external fan alternator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLgjyJBvYs4


And here's one that's show you a pretty good partial rebuild of a 1988 Volvo external fan alternator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o_OrF2S_UA


How about a video showing how to remove your 240 Alternator?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A72pWPYm8yo




Improving the Charge with a BIGGER/BETTER Alternator

WHY WOULD YOU WANT OR NEED A BETTER ALTERNATOR?
My 1984 242 Turbo originally came with a modest Bosch 55 amp alternator. Can some explain why such a non-significant alternator was used?  A non-turbo 240 got a 70 amp alternator.
In stock form, that tiny alternator was barely adequate from the beginning. Like most light-duty Bosch alternators,
it suffered from a significant voltage drop when a moderate load was placed on it, especially at idle.  And it also suffered from an even larger voltage drop when it got hot (and of course it sits close to the turbocharger). 

The Volvo B21 (red block) engine was not originally designed to have a turbocharger when it was designed in the early 1970s. The turbocharger was added much later. I guess the Volvo engineers did the best they could. Not much can be done if you have a flame thrower next to your alternator, unless you want to move the flame thrower or move the alternator.
They did neither. 

Moving the alternator away from the turbo may be easier for some people.  I'll discuss that topic later below. 
For now I decided to deal with the alternator in the ORIGINAL LOCATION.
We'll see what improvements can be made.



Installing an adjustable voltage regulator helped me live with this situation for years by bringing up the OVERALL VOLTAGE OUTPUT, but an adjustable regulator can only do so much.

An adjustable regulator successfully increased my beginning (COLD and NO-LOAD) voltage from about 13.5 volts to 14.4 volts.  But the adjustable regulator cannot increase AMPERAGE capability and it cannot overcome a high-temperature voltage drop (except of course in part by increasing the overall beginning cold voltage setting).
HOT voltage output can drop by as much as ONE or TWO VOLTS in an old Bosch alternator!


Read more about the reasons why your alternator has a high-temp voltage drop HERE.



WHAT HAVE OTHER CARS MAKERS DONE TO ADDRESS THE HOT ALTERNATOR PROBLEM?

In the mid-1980's PORSCHE ran into a similar problem when they added a turbo to the 944 to make the 944 Turbo. There was not enough room on the exhaust side to add a turbo. There was barely enough room for a manifold. So where did the turbo go??? 
Have a closer look below. 
This 4 cylinder engine is similar to the Volvo engine in that the intake manifold is on the left and the exhaust is on the right.  Unlike Volvo, the Porsche engineers found NO ROOM on the exhaust side to mount a turbo. Instead, they ran a pipe from the exhaust manifold, UNDER THE ENGINE, all the way to the intake side and put the turbo under the intake manifold right behind the alternator!  Crazy stuff.


You can feel fortunate there were no German engineers working on the Volvo turbo engine.



 
I had a discussion about heat-related voltage drops with a Porsche 944 Turbo owner.  Porsche engineers did something extra to help reduce the heat by adding a LARGE cool air duct to bring air into the back of the alternator. This likely helped during highway speeds, but heat was still always a big problem. Volvo engineers would have had a much more difficult time doing something like this, unless they moved the OIL FILTER.
   


CAN COOLING DUCTS BE INSTALLED ON A VOLVO 240 ALTERNATOR?
Yes, if you're determined enough.
There isn't any room behind this 240 alternator below. Adding a shroud or duct would require some work and relocating that oil filter.
 
So if the 240 oil filter was to be re-located, there could be room for something like this low-profile cooling shroud below.
This shroud is Porsche PN 96410640302. I have not tried doing anything like this.  If you're inspired to try it, please let me know.








Volvo (Bosch) 55 Amp versus 100 Amp Alternator Size Comparison
    
Here's the bigger 100 amp Bosch alternator below that I installed in my 242 many years ago (circa 2003).
Before I owned this car, I did the same installation on my old '84 245 Turbo way back in the 1990s.
I simply wanted something with more amperage, since in both cars I was using up the capacity of the 55 amp alternator and getting poor voltage, especially at idle. This Bosch 100 amp unit came from a later 700 series Volvo I found in a salvage yard. Installing one of these was a popular mod.

The new belt size I used for the Bosch 100a unit was typically about 10 x 950 mm or longer (original belt was 10 x 925 mm)






Volvo 240 Accessory Belts
Information on factory 240 accessory V belt sizes used to be easier to find, but it seems to have mostly disappeared from many useful sites. 
I put this info together many, many years ago for my own 240 uses. I thought I would share it here. 

ACCESSORY
Volvo PN
Size
Notes
Alternator
958352, 966908
10 x 925 mm
2 needed. 1976-83 240. Also PN 977260.
Alternator
973536, 973538
10 x 918 mm, 10 x 920 mm
2 needed. 1984-93 240. Also 9.5 x 918mm may be used in most cases.
PN for these belt as a pair: 973537.



NOTE for all 240 Alternators: If you're upgrading to a larger alternator which will needs more room, such as the Bosch 100A unit, you might try using size 10 x 950 mm or up to the maximum size of about 10 x 975 mm.




AC to PS
967114
13 x 1075 mm
1977-84 240. Also 12.5 x 1075 mm.
AC to PS
973535
10 x 850 mm

1985-92 240.

AC to PS
977759
11.9 x 835 mm
1993 240.




Crank to PS (no AC present)
966909
10 x 938 mm
1977-89 240.




Crank to AC
967103
13 x 925 mm
1976-84 240. Also PN 978678.
Crank to AC 979631
13 x 975 mm
1985-92 240.
Crank to AC 979277
13 x 938 mm
1993 240.





SPACE FOR THE OIL PRESSURE SENDER
Since the Bosch 100 amp alternator case is physically BIGGER than the old 55 amp alternator, it causes interference with the large 2-pole oil pressure sender found in a 240 Turbo.  That brass 45 degree fitting came standard on a 240 Turbo, but the bigger alternator still hits the sender with that fitting unless you can swing the alternator outward far enough.





So generally the oil pressure sender needs to be re-positioned to make room.  Sometimes finding the room for it need some new ideas, but if the alternator can be swung out further from the engine (with longer belts) you can be successful.
THESE PICS are from some other 240, not mine, but it shows how TIGHT THAT SPACE is for the oil pressure sender when a big alternator is put in there.



Ultimately, I dealt with the cramped space a bit differently as you see in this image below.  I mounted a remote sender after I have some bad experiences with other options  This option actually worked very well.
Here's a thread that goes over this mod in more detail:

https://forums.tbforums.com/showthread.php?t=192788




If you can find enough room, the ultimate position for this sender is shown here, WITHOUT ANY BRASS ELBOW or ADAPTER, but this would require some planning to get the alternator EVEN FURTHER away from the engine and/or a smaller alternator might work.



A longer belt MIGHT have helped this installation by swinging the alternator further from the engine, which would make extra room for that oil pressure sender.  But then you find that swinging the alternator further out moves the belts TOO CLOSE to the alternator mounting bracket below it. 
A longer belt in this situation means the belt is going to hit that bracket.  So the longest belt in this situation is probably going to be somewhere close to the 10 x 950 mm I used.  That belt is about 25 mm longer than factory.



What about a DENSO?
Here's the Nippon Denso alternator in a 240. 
It has become popular to install this smaller case alternator, which can be found in some later 700/900 models. It's physically smaller than the above 100 amp Bosch. These Densos can usually  be found in 80 or 100 amp capacity. They perform pretty much the same as a large Bosch alternator at idle.
The most positive benefit is that they do fit better.
There is more room for the oil pressure sender with this more compact alternator.

Denso alternators found in Volvos are usually 80 Amp or 100 Amp. They look similar to each other, but you'll notice the 80 Amp units have a small 6 mm lug for the fat red cable. 100 Amp units will have a larger 8 mm lug.
 



SERVICING A DENSO
Here's a page devoted to rebuilding a Denso alternator with more pics: https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/ElectricalDensoRebuild.htm
And a discussion thread on Servicing a Denso Alternator:
https://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=349853


INCREASING THE VOLTAGE IN A DENSO
What about increasing voltage output for a Denso alternator like this
? It's not something I have tried personally, but there now seems to be some interesting videos on this subject. 
Here's one where the author increased output from 14 volts to 14.7 volts. The video is not in English, but following along is pretty easy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRgSHGhcolg&feature=youtu.be






Introduction of the
MECHMAN ALTERNATOR #1
This installation was in 2010.

NOTE: MECHMAN ALTERNATOR #2 was installed in 2019 and CAN BE FOUND HERE.

In 2010 I decided that the 100 amp Volvo Bosch alternator was no longer going to cut it. 
The biggest problem was how it charged at idle.
When running the air conditioning (with a big electric primary puller fan and dual condenser fans), voltage was suffering badly at idle and much worse after the alternator started getting HOT or if I turned on the air conditioning. I had begun using a big Ford electric puller fan, starting with a Ford T-bird fan and eventually getting to a
Lincoln Mark VIII fan that pulls up to 40 amps at full speed.


More on this big cooling fan setup and other electric fans can be found in my
Electric Fan Page HERE.


With the Bosch 100 amp alternator, the voltage drop between COLD and HOT with a heavy load at IDLE was:
 14.4 volts COLD to 12.4 volts HOT.
BOSCH  =  A
FULL 2 VOLT DROP! 

Also this situation was forcing me to set the idle speed higher than it normally should be to help keep voltage from going through the floor.
Here's a temperature reading from my exhaust manifold (AT IDLE) a short distance from my alternator.
WHY DOES CHARGING VOLTAGE DROP SO MUCH?
  HOT AUTOMOTIVE ALTERNATOR VOLTAGE DROPS.

(SPOILER: It's about the WARRANTY)
You've noticed how much voltage drops when your alternator gets hot, right? This is not something that car alternator manufacturers want to talk about.  The reason is that automotive alternators are specifically engineered so that they reduce output when they get hot.  This is because heat is an enemy to an alternator and it can be a common reason for failure.  So alternator engineers designed their alternators to have the best chances of surviving the WARRANTY PERIOD.  Engineering them to reduce output when they get hot is the answer to that. So there's really not much else you can do with a standard automotive alternator if it's getting hot and dropping voltage. Volvo did add a thin heat shield for the 240 Turbo.  It probably helped a little. This is not as big a problem in cars where the alternator is on the opposite side from the exhaust or turbo, like in the Volvo 740 or 940.

In 2010 I was introduced to Mechman high performance alternators by a Turbobricks member. 
I then talked with Mechman and I told them about my low idle voltage. I was assured that the custom unit I was buying would improve voltage at idle by offering more amps at idle.
Mechman didn't really have a high-performance Volvo-specific alternator, so they custom tailored a GM Delco style alternator to fit a Volvo.

Skipping ahead: The Mechman alternator did improve charging at idle and overall output was much better, but it STILL suffered from an annoying voltage drop when it got hot. The voltage drop was not as bad as the Bosch though, but I still had to resort to keeping my idle up a bit higher than normal to keep charging voltage from dropping off below 13V when everything was on.
 

I began thinking there might NEVER be a real solution for a 240 Turbo with the alternator on the exhaust side and I thought I might have to eventually move the alternator to the other side of the engine like on the Volvo 740.


I began a discussion thread in Turbobricks in 2010 back when I did this, which did help me solve some issues. 

That thread is here:
https://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=215613.


UPDATE: August 2019
 I learned that Mechman no longer offers CUSTOM FIT alternators like the one I bought below. It was customized (machined) to fit a Volvo red block.
BUT, I have since found there are STILL excellent solutions to make a universal high-output alternator fit your Volvo.
I've added info that should help. CLICK HERE.



Here's the Mechman alternator from 2010 compared to the Bosch 100 amp I was using up to that time. 
The Mechman used a large case GM Delco style housing that has been slightly modified to correctly fit in the factory Volvo mounting location (while also using a few spacers). I was told this Mechman unit was a one-off 170 amp alternator based on the Delco AD230 (1996-2013 GM truck) with a little custom machining to its case so it would bolt up similar to the Volvo Bosch alternator. 

 
Similar Volvo conversions have been done using GM AD244 and GM DR44 late model truck alternators.  The reported benefit is excellent output at idle, which is something the old Volvo Bosch unit don't do well.
More about the modifications Mechman did can be found HERE.






Here's what the above 2010 Mechman #1 looked like installed in my car.
 
The belt size I used for the Bosch 100a unit was 10 x 925 mm or 10 x 950 mm
I found that I could swing this Mechman slightly further from the engine and the new belt size used was 10 x 965 mm.



GROUND CABLE:
Attaching a big ground was a bit different on this alternator. 
It didn't come with a ground stud on its case, so the solution (also suggested by Mechman) was pinching a ring terminal against the case underneath as shown here. It turned out to be a good solution as long as that long bolt doesn't tend to loosen over time. I used a good lock-nut on that long bolt to make sure it didn't vibrate loose.
 
The best charging results with this new (2010 Mechman) alternator came after I added a dedicated 4 GAUGE ground cable and positive cable from the alternator directly to the battery.  You can see the results of numerous tests in the above mentioned installation threadI still experienced a significant COLD-to-HOT VOLTAGE DROP using this alternator, but ultimately adding these cables provide the best result so far for any alternator I had tried.  



Using enhanced (LARGE) POSITIVE and NEGATIVE Battery to Alternator Cables.
The latest version I did on my car uses large WELDING CABLE.  Welding cable uses very fine strands in the wire, making a large, fat cable much more flexible. 
Why do you need flexible cable?  I'll tell you why. 
My first version used large, fat normal strand cable.  The vibration and flexing of the fat power cable to the alternator eventually broke the cable at the alternator lug after a number of years and many miles, leaving me stranded and calling for a tow. 


This illustration below will give an understanding of what is recommended with a high-amp alternator.  You should consult the manufacturer of your alternator for a cable size recommendation, but be prepared to be told to make them very BIG.  I made this illustration below to show big dedicated cables (POWER AND GROUND) going directly from the alternator to the battery, so power and ground is as absolutely as direct as possible.  The cable between the alternator and the starter becomes optional, since you really no longer need that cable if you do this.  Keep the cable from the battery to the starter though, since you'll still need that to start the engine.

<<< WARNING NOTE: I don't recommend using one of these inexpensive disconnect devices on your battery when using a high output alternator like this.  I had one of these on my negative battery terminal.  After installing the Mechman I began experiencing some strange intermittent momentary voltage drops when the alternator was under load, such as when the AC was on.  It took a while to figure it out and it's detailed in the Turbobricks thread mentioned above.  It turned out that this disconnect knob was creating high resistance in the ground cable circuit and the Mechman was sensitive to it.  I removed it and made sure my battery ground was more solidly connected.



Unintended Side Effects of a High-Performance Alternator:
DEALING  WITH  BELT  SLIP
Back to this photo:  Have a  good look at the belts wrapping around that pulley.  There's just a little more than 90 degrees of belt wrap and the actual belt-to-pulley contact patch is small.
 
This was not already becoming a problem back when the weaker 55 amp Bosch alternator was in there, but then it became intolerable with a high output alternator. 
I found that I needed to tighten the alternator belts much more and then they needed adjusting later.  I was putting a LOT of stress on these belts and you'll see below it can cause problems.  That bolt in the block for the adjusting bracket has been known to break off (it also happened to ME) and I have seen a few people with broken water pump pulleys (see thread here: https://www.forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=323223). Over-tightening is just plain BAD. It can also prematurely wear of your water pump bearings and generally your belts don't last as long as they should. They just wear faster and then they will begin slipping again sooner.
MORE ON THIS ISSUE WILL CONTINUE BELOW.



Belt Failure Concerns
Some reasons why over-tightening is BAD, in case you're wondering.

This was NOT an alternator belt. This was a 240 crank pulley to AC belt. 
It failed on my 242 after about 300 miles of use because I goofed and adjusted it too tight.  The belt didn't actually break, but it did jump off the pulleys.


That long corded string stuff above was the embedded cord in the top-side of the belt.  The cord separated from the belt (or maybe snapped from too much tension) and then eventually unraveled.  The belt eventually came off the pulleys and I found it sitting in my belly pan. Most of that corded material ended up wrapped around my AC pulley.  Once that corded part separated, the belt lost the ability to stay tight.  After losing that corded material, the belt becomes more like a big, soft, stretchy rubber band.




MECHMAN #2
Update 2019:

I Got a New BIGGER/BETTER Mechman

In 2019 I installed a new Mechman #2 for the 242. 
This one is actually physically about the same size as the previous Mechman, but it's much "beefier" on the INSIDE. This alternator came with a 170 amp 6 phase HAIRPIN STATOR. 
According to the literature a bit further below, it's based on a GM Delco CS130D 1998-2002 GM F-body (Camaro).
This Mechman part number was B8206170M (PN B8206 with 170 amps).
 

This particular alternator was custom prepared by Mechman. This means they did some MINOR MACHINING to the case so it would easily bolt up in the Volvo red block mounting location similar to a normal Volvo Bosch alternator.  And of course it also got a double V-belt pulley since that's needed for a 240.
More on the custom modifications that were done to create this alternator can be found HERE.


UPDATE NOTE about custom availability: August 2019
In 2019 I learned that Mechman no longer offers CUSTOM FIT alternators for Volvo. Mine was mildly customized to better fit a Volvo red block.
But are these custom features really necessary?  The answer is NO!
There are good solutions to make a UNIVERSAL high-output alternator fit your Volvo.

I have added info below that will help. CLICK HERE.


Before getting this alternator I had no clue what a 6 PHASE HAIRPIN STATOR was.  Now that I know, I'm here to say that if you upgrade to a high-performance alternator, buy one with a hairpin stator.
I wish someone had educated ME about alternators like this BEFORE I BOUGHT MECHMAN #1!
There's info below that will show you how different a 6 phase hairpin stator looks compared to a normal type.
  So, the hairpin design looks pretty cool . . .
. . . but does it actually perform better?  YES IT DOES. Keep reading below.




WIRING
I've added some information below on the WIRING for this alternator.
Below you can see that this installation included an Adjustable Voltage Boost Module (AVBM). I was talked into buying this with the alternator order, mainly because I questioned whether this alternator could actually support the Voltage I wanted, without HOT voltage drops or simple overload voltage drops.  I was coming from the perspective and experience that NOTHING (so far) had been successful at providing that.  So I was open to trying it.

 As it turned out, the AVBM was NOT needed, but since I had installed it, I kept it and used the voltage readout to keep track of voltage. I never needed to adjust it, ever. It was useful because the voltage readout was reflecting voltage taken directly from the alternator, not simply the voltage seen at the dash, like a normal volt meter would show. 
Anyway, the AVBM was discontinued by Mechman, so it's NLA.

Eventually, I plan to REMOVE THE AVBM and I'll install a simple voltage gauge or digital read-out for monitoring voltage.  I'll show the new wiring on the alternator below.
 

.
Here's the simplest way to connect the Mechman.

Activation of a GM style alternator with 4 pin plug.
This is a departure from the usual way a Bosch alternator gets activated or “excited” using the red D+ wire from the dash charge warning light. This method below is used for GM style alternators using the below 4-pole plug. 
With this method the “L” terminal is connected to switched 12v. The 12v source will activate the alternator when the car begins running.  It must be a switched circuit, because if a constant 12v circuit was connected, it would drain your battery. Connecting the “S” terminal to the alternator output is optional.



ALTERNATOR PLUG EXPLANATION
This plug connects to the regulator and would be typically found in a 1998-2002 GM F-body (Camaro), 2004-2005 Buick or Pontiac, and 2001-2006 Cadillac.
Fits alternator part numbers: Denso 104210-3060, 104210-3070, 104210-3300, 104210-4540; GM 15145637, 25697765, 25697766, 25758348, 25759776, 84009369.
110-12046 GM Delco Plug

VOLTAGE REGULATOR
If the voltage regulator ever needs to be replaced on this CS130D type Delco alternator, I thought I would add that info here, just in case it becomes useful in the future.
12 Volt, B-Circuit, S-F-L Terminals, 15.0 Voltage Set Point, w/ LRC For Denso Alternators. Part Numbers: Denso 126600-0030, 126600-0031, GL10031, 104210-330, 104210-454, Transpo IN6003. 





MORE MECHMAN INFO


HAIRPIN STATORS
(Info taken from MECHMAN'S web pages)
6 Phase Advantage

Mechman Elite and S Series alternators employ cutting edge alternator technology not found in other aftermarket alternators. 6 phase hairpin stators make Mechman Elite and S Series alternators fundamentally more efficient than other aftermarket alternators. This new technology and increased efficiency equates to incredible output at extremely low engine RPM, less energy wasted in the form of heat, and more horsepower to the wheels. Also because less heat is being generated, the internal components of Mechman Elite and S Series alternators last longer. This is especially beneficial on turbocharged and/or endurance racing vehicles with high engine compartment temperatures. All Mechman Elite and S Series alternators feature soldered stator and rectifier connections, with epoxy re-enforced stator connections, reducing the chance of vibration failures.

High Pole Count

Mechman Elite and S Series units are built exclusively with precision balanced low-mass rotors that allow them to operate safely at shaft speeds of 20,000+ rpm. This high RPM capability, combined with excellent output at idle, gives the user a much broader operating RPM range, and more flexibility in the size of the crankshaft pulley used. A properly selected Mechman Elite and S Series alternator can even fix low voltage problems caused by using small diameter, or "underdriven" pulley ratios. The higher pole count in the rotor also results in less electromagnetic interference to cause problems with radios and other electronics.

Twin Rectifiers

As a final precaution, Mechman Elite and S Series alternators are constructed with twin high efficiency cooling fans, and twin internal rectifier plates. While other high performance alternators have only one rectifier with 6 diodes. Mechman Elite and S Series units boast 12 press fit diodes with 300% more surface area to dissipate heat. These considerations to cooling airflow and heat dissipation make Mechman Elite and S Series high performance alternators the most durable aftermarket alternators you can buy. If you are experiencing pre-mature alternator failure, intermittent electrical accessory problems, or low voltage at any engine RPM, a Mechman Elite or S Series alternator is the answer!


Parts Comparison: 6-Phase High Output MECHMAN versus 3-Phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMB2Rrpz9yg



6 PHASE HAIRPIN STATOR
P E R F O R M A N C E
Here are the dyno specs for my new 6 phase alternator, Mechman PN B8206170M.  As you can see it puts out up to 145 amps at idle. 
 
That sounds impressive but what does that mean in real life?

IT MEANS THIS:
Now, when I first fire the car up cold, the voltage output is ~14.8 volts. As things warm up, it slowly settles to about 14.7 volts.
So then what if I turn on accessories, like EVERYTHING you can think of: AC and high wattage headlights, etc. 
With the old 100 amp Bosch, this would create a HOT voltage drop of up to 2 volts.
With this Mechman it STAYS VERY STABLE with a voltage drop of up to about 0.2 volts (at the battery), even when HOT and even during hot IDLE!
Alternator voodoo like this has never happened to me before!
ALMOST NO VOLTAGE DROP WHEN HOT!
Impossible you say?  I would have doubts too if I didn't see it for myself.

So yes, if you can afford it, buy a 6 phase hairpin stator alternator.


And this video shows the fully HOT alternator voltage when getting a full load: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5c_6JGEplo

While the above reading may seem deceiving, the actual voltage drop measured at the battery is shown below.


MECHMAN versus Other Alternators
Mechman 6-phase alternators are not cheap, but they have very high quality. Be careful if you begin looking at no-name or Chinese made high-performance alternators.  Mechman made a comparison video showing how cheap some of the fake "high-amp" alternators can be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5l4z3b2zHA


Mechman has options for adjusting voltage if you need that. I ultimately found that it was NOT needed for my installation, since my alternator stays put at full voltage under all load conditions.
If you're interested in Mechman alternators, you can find them at:
https://www.mechman.com/



CS130D Disassembly, Rebuild
If by chance you're playing with GM 130D alternators,
I found the below video, which details the disassembly and rebuilding of one.  I found it pretty interesting and decided to put it here in case it becomes useful for someone later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdK8ZqNvGsc





Up next:  
Seriously Dealing with the
BELT SLIP ISSUE
and the reason for the
ALTERNATOR IDLER BRACKET PROJECT.

I began a discussion thread on this project in 2019: https://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=350085
CHIEF SYMPTOM: Incurable Belt Slip during Load.
The 240 original alternator design doesn't offer enough BELT WRAP (or belt to pulley contact) for an alternator that can push a heavy load.  Volvo engineers added a second belt to the 240, which makes it better, but when you exceed the grip capacity for those belts, it's just going to slip. 

I spent more time that I should have trying different belts and cranking them tighter and tighter. 
In the end, I STILL HAD BELT SLIP.



Photo of my B21FT Engine Alternator with POOR BELT WRAP: After installing this new Mechman high-performance alternator in 2019 I found I needed a lot more belt grip.  This was an immediate problem when running my AC, which uses a big Lincoln Mark VIII puller fan and dual condenser pusher fans.
Keep in mind that this awesome alternator holds voltage at high levels, even under a heavy load.  No other alternator I have ever tried could do that.  The others would just reduce output instead.
An alternator that simply drops voltage to 12 volts or reduces output might not need more belt grip.




So my concept to FIX BELT SLIP was to design an IDLER PULLEY (technically a back-side idler) to significantly increase belt wrap on that alternator pulley. 
A back-side idler is NOT normally done with V-belts. Some people will tell you you shouldn't try it.  The main concern seems to be the potential for faster belt wear.  Well, crap!  I already have faster belt wear with an over-tightened slipping alternator pulley.  And so far all of these concerns appear to be based on opinion, not actual experience or facts. 
So if this concerns you, wait and see how this turns out.

MODIFIED CONCEPT WITH IDLER
Observations and Rationalization: 
There wasn't initially enough room between the crank pulley and alternator to add an IDLER PULLEY unless the alternator was moved over first. 


A bracket that could also include a mounting point for the upper adjuster bracket would be a BONUS and eliminate the need for a new longer custom upper adjuster bracket. 

It also eliminates the bolt going into the front of the block that breaks off!


After a careful look, I could see there was actually decent room in my 240 to move the alternator over a bit.  Nothing seemed to interfere.
So let's proceed.



WAIT!  WHAT ABOUT A SERPENTINE BELT?
This kind of thing below has been considered.


First, let's look at how the 850 and 960 serpentine belt was arranged. All of the accessories were designed to be on ONE side.
The water pump on this motor is turned by the timing belt, so it's not involved with the serpentine belt.


So let's pause for a minute and I'll explain
why I DID NOT move toward this.

I've seen a few people do variations of serpentine systems in Volvo 240s, but so far I have not seen anyone do it for a 240 with proper pulleys for an alternator, water pump, power steering and AC using actual RED BLOCK accessories OR with a PROPER TENSIONER PULLEY, which is certainly recommended.
Yes, you can cobble together some pulley parts from a salvage yard and adapt them, but you will still need a custom crank pulley (for B21), or for a B230 you'll need a custom B230 crank dampener.  And you will STILL have to make all of the needed brackets to hold those idler pulleys and a tensioner. 

So yes, it could be done, but it would be VERY expensive.


In the end, would you get better belt-wrap on the alternator than with my idea?


This idea has also been suggested:

"Why don't I just give up and change to a 740/940 style alternator mounting?"
I don't think there's anything wrong with changing your 240 to the 740/940 style alternator mount. You just need the parts.  It requires new mounting brackets, maybe a new 740/940 style power steering pump and new or modified power steering hoses. Plus changes to the alternator cables/wires.  The only question I still have is about potential belt slip.  Yes, this arrangement offers more belt-wrap on the alternator pulley than a 240, but it allows for only ONE alternator belt if you have an AC compressor.
Would that ONE ALTERNATOR BELT be good enough for a high output alternator like mine? 
  Don't know for sure.




P R O T O T Y P E   T E S T I N G
INITIAL IDLER  BRACKET  DESIGN
  
Test Engine #1 B230:
For those who don't have a 240 close by to look at, here's a view of the STOCK alternator pulley belt wrap situation.
Of course the alternator pulley slips.

This belt wrap is bad-bad-bad.

Stock Early 240 Alternator Mount Detail
More original 240 bracket and tensioning arm info can be found in the installation guide below.


  #1 Plastic Prototype on Test Engine #1 B230:

So
I started with making a bracket out of cardboard (not pictured).  Then I made a prototype bracket in plastic (PHOTO ABOVE).  This is 1/4 inch PVC I bought from McMaster Carr.  It's easy to cut or grind and can be bent with some heat.  This material made it easy to make adjustments when test fitting over and over on a B230, which was on an engine stand. The plastic bracket was pretty rigid and easily strong enough to mount an alternator and try out some belts.



Here's the plastic prototype bracket mounted on a B230 test engine with an idler pulley and belts.  Moving the alternator about 1.5 inches away from the engine did not seem to be a problem. In my 240 there seemed to be plenty of room also. And the nice side-effect is there's a LOT MORE ROOM for the oil pressure sender.
 

On the subject of moving the alternator away from the engine, there is a possibility of interference with original steel oil cooler pipes if your car has them, but I think interference can be avoided.
My 242 lost those pipes years ago when I changed to a remote oil filter and RX7 oil cooler.
Details about this can be seen in my OIL COOLER PAGE.
 

Again, Plastic Prototype on Test Engine #1 B230:
 
I wanted this new bracket to be able to use the stock top adjuster bracket (tensioner arm).
This is why that mounting ear was added.



I
f you have ever had the bolt for the adjuster bracket BREAK OFF in the BLOCK (like me and many others have) then you'll appreciate that the design of this new bracket eliminates the use of that bolt forever.

 
By the way, here's a video below showing how to repair this broken bolt if this happens to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb9TxJsa1as

STEEL PROTOTYPE BRACKET #1:

So then I had a working prototype made by a local metal fab shop using 1/4 inch steel plate.


And I bought some steel spacers. These particular spacers shown are 1.5 inches long and 7/8 inch in diameter.
PN 4GVD9
from Grainger.com.



Here's a photo showing how much bolt thread usually goes into the block when using a stock bracket.  The mounting holes in the block are usually about 15-16 mm deep and your original bolts use up most of that thread depth. The stock aluminum 240 alternator bracket is 15 mm thick and your stock bolts are most likely M8 x 1.25 x 30 mm long. 
The 30 mm bolt length is measured not counting the head in case you're curious.
 

Keep this info in mind when deciding how long of a bolt you'll need if you add an idler pulley bracket and spacers.  In my case the spacers were 1.5 inches long and the new idler pulley bracket is 0.25 inch thick, with a combined total of 1.75 inch (44 mm).  So if you used the same size spacers, you would be using bolts with a length of about 75 mm (not counting the head).

Again, Steel Prototype on Test Engine B230 #1:

Here's the first test-fitting of the STEEL prototype bracket.
You may have noticed that I changed to a different idler pulley in this photo.  There's more info below on this different pulley.
 


Again, Steel Prototype on Test
Engine #1 B230:

Here's a view of the back-side and the mounting ear can be seen for the top adjuster bracket.

 




CHOOSING AN IDLER PULLEY
This is the first idler pulley shown in the above pics.  I chose it mainly because I wanted to use a flat pulley with side flanges.  It was not expensive, HOWEVER, I had some concerns about the durability of a pulley, since it was originally intended for a lawn tractor.  I could not find any useful specs other than what I have listed here, so I have no real reason for having doubts, except that it just might not be designed for a car engine.  So after thinking it over, I decided instead to choose an idler pulley that was probably actually designed for automotive use at higher engine RPMs, temperatures, etc.

DUAL BEARING PULLEY
I found this pulley listed in the Dayco Pulley Guide (PDF link below). So I ordered one.
Yes, it's a GROOVED pulley.


Dayco offers a good variety of pulleys and the below guide lists a lot of them, but relatively few are FLAT pulleys with side flanges.  And even fewer are WIDE ENOUGH for TWO V-BELTS (it should be more than 1 inch (26 mm) wide). 

The majority of the pulleys that Dayco offers are grooved pulleys, which are designed for serpentine belt systems. All of these pulleys have sealed ball bearing centers, but there is a variety of center bore diameters. Some in the catalog have a 10 mm center hole (like THIS one) and some have 17 mm center holes (and a few other center hole sizes). I preferred a 10 mm center hole.  It's a good size for a standard sized bolt.

The majority of the pulleys they offered had ONE center bearing.  Very few had DUAL BEARINGS. An automotive grade pulley with a single bearing would probably be just fine for this project, but I decided since something with two bearings was available, I would try that.  

Some people have expressed doubts about using a pulley with raised grooves. The concern was about the back-sides of v-belts running on a grooved surface.  After testing for over 5,000 miles, my conclusion is it worked fine.  More details below CLICK HERE.


Dayco Pulley Guide: http://www.daycoproducts.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/17/f63f2a9acd46a2fa5140ade7b2423f73/files/dimensional_pulley_guide.pdf



Steel Prototype fitted to Test Engine B230 #1:

After initial testing, I decided to make an adjustment to the position of the idler pulley.  I ra
ised the idler pulley up more in order to increase belt-wrap around the alternator pulley even more than I had.  As you can see in this pic, there is now more than 180 degrees of belt-wrap on the alternator pulley.
Then long term testing was done with this configuration in my 242. 
 
SLIP RESISTANCE NOTE:
After installing this on my 242, I tested the slip resistance by putting socket wrenches on the crank bolt and on the alternator pulley nut and I applied torque.  This test before with the stock setup demonstrated almost NO grip on the alternator pulley.  Testing with this new configuration showed that the alternator pulley now actually has MORE GRIP than the crank pulley.
This is a big change!


Steel Prototype Bracket Installed for Long-Term Road Testing on Test Engine #2 B21FT:

I installed the bracket in my 240 Turbo for long-term road testing and I put thousands of miles on it with no problems.
Yes, this bracket was modified a couple times before settling on this configuration.
  
VERDICT:
This idler has
SOLVED all belt slip problems on my 242. 



WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF USING A GROOVED IDLER PULLEY?
  Installation and testing on the B21FT:
Lets discuss how THE GROOVES affected the belts.

 
The only effect that has been found caused by the grooved pulley is found in this photo.  The grooves etched some lines onto the backs of the belts.  This began to appear after only a few miles and after well over 5,000 miles it did not change
. It may look less than ideal, but it did not become a problem.  Changing to a SMOOTH pulley would probably make this go away, so stay tuned. I'll be trying one out below.


ALTERNATE BELT TEST (Engine #1 B230 engine pictured):
I don't think the lines above made by the grooved pulley will be a problem, but if it becomes unwanted, a switch to this type of belt would probably make it a non-issue.  I bought a set of the belts shown here as an alternate. 


STEEL PROTOTYPE BRACKE
T

 
This is
a Dayco Top-Cog belt. 
It comes as a Top-Cog as shown with a normal bottom 'V' section in 0.44 inch (11 mm) width.  This 11 mm width will fit the 10 mm wide pulleys in a 240 just fine.
After trying this, I find that I like these belts better because they have more internal reinforcement than the Gates belts.
The belt size I used is 1120 mm long, Dayco PN 15440.  I ordered them through Summit Racing ($12 each).  Keep in mind that you should buy belts like this as a MATCHED PAIRSome places will send you un-matched belts if you don't ask for a matched pair.  You don't want one belt longer (or slimmer) than the other.  That happened to me.  So if needed, you might try to talk to someone in-person and get them to send a matched pair.  Summit Racing did this for me when I called. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dac-15440
 

  

KEVLAR V-BELTS BELTS
I have NOT tried kevlar belts. I Found this info while searching, so I thought I would add it here in case it becomes useful to anyone later: 
Kevlar / Aramid belts
are created to be stronger than standard v-belts. In a Kevlar belt, the normal polyester cords are replaced with the much stronger Kevlar cords. When using machinery with a back side idler, the belt takes a beating and normal belts can potentially wear out faster. Kevlar drive belts are made to last longer in these situations.
https://www.vbeltsupply.com/kevlar-corded/3lk


SMOOTH SURFACE PULLEY
So after about over 5,000 miles of very successful testing I decided I would try out a smooth pulley to see how things went.
As expected, the smooth pulley did not mark the belts.  No issues.



This pulley above only comes with a 17 mm center bore.  I have designed the idler bracket to use a smaller bolt, so I bought one of the below pictured center bushings and installed it into the center of this pulley.  These bushings have a 17 mm outside diameter and a 10 mm center bore and they are a nice snug press-fit into the center bore of the 17 mm bearing on this pulley.  No press was needed. I just tapped it in with a hammer. 
Cost was very small for this bushing (under $10):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AZ0OPPQ/
   


So while the above smooth pulley works fine, I still have a preference for the DUAL BEARING pulley that I used before (DAYCO 89516).  So I decided to modify it.
I used my bench grinder to slowly grind down the raised grooves. I allowed the pulley to slowly spin on a bolt while grinding. So basically I turned this into a much smoother pulley. It only took a few minutes.  Worked perfectly.




INSTALLATION GUIDE FOR IDLER PULLEY BRACKET
As you can see here, this bracket has been made for a wide range of adjustments for different size alternators, different size idler pulleys, different positions for the pulleys and different positions for the top adjuster bracket, etc. 
The below photos show the installation into my my 1984 240 Turbo B21FT. 

For my installation I used the below style of ADJUSTER BRACKET (tensioner arm).  A particular style is not required. You can use any style that you have. This FIRST IMAGE below is the typical bracket found on early B21 or B23 equipped 240s up about 1985This is the same as bracket #3 in the bracket assortment photo further below.
Tensioner Arm Volvo PN 1276128.


This SECOND adjuster bracket (tensioner arm) type below has a tension adjusting bolt. This type of bracket was found in B230F equipped 240s from 1985-93.  This is bracket #4 in the bracket assortment photo below.
Tensioner Arm Volvo PN 1346365.


Here's a photo from a TB thread showing an assortment of Volvo adjuster brackets that were offered for 240 and 740. The 240 brackets shown above are #3 and #4.
https://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=356867



The IDLER PULLEY I chose is Dayco 89516.  I chose this one because it has dual bearings and fits perfectly.  I flattened the grooves to provide a smoother surface for the backs of the belts to ride on.  More details about this pulley can be found HERE.

There is a choice of pulleys. You can also choose a pulley with a smooth surface, but it will not have DUAL bearings. See that HERE.

The bolts I used were M8 that I pulled from my spare bolt bin. I think the length of that pulley bolt is about 50 mm. I spaced the pulley away from the bracket using a couple washers and it has about 1/8 inch clearance from the bracket.
IMPORTANT:  Be sure to use LOCKING NUTS here.  Normal fasteners can vibrate loose over time and that would not be good.
There are many choices for a good lock-nut. If you're using M8 bolts, the lock-nuts pictured are these: https://www.ipdusa.com/products/11455/Copper-Flanged-Lock-Nut-CRP-11621711954-948645-124875.
       

I checked both the B230 and B21 blocks to see how deep the threads are for the alternator bracket.  Both were about 15 mm deep as shown by the grease marking on the below bolt.  Keep this in mind during your installation. You should try to get at least 10 mm of bolt thread inserted during your installation, but your bolts should not be so long that they bottom out before becoming tight.
If a bolt you choose is close to being too long, you can always add a washer.



HARDWARE: I used 1.5 inch long steel spacers and 75 mm long bolts (M8 x 1.25 x 75) bolts with washers (pictured below).  The bolt length is measured without the head.
These bolts pictured are strong Grade 10.  I recommend Grade 10 because of the long length and Grade 10 bolts are used in the kit here.

But if you use your own bolts and you only have Grade 8 bolts, the
y should be ok. I tested the prototype bracket for over 5000 miles using Grade 8 bolts. This included several different dis-assemblies and re-assemblies. Not a problem.

If you decide on a different length spacer than 1.5 inches, then you should adjust your bolt length.

GATES METRIC-POWER XPZ 1120
The belts I used first were Gates Metric-Power XPZ 1120. These are 1120 mm in length, 10 mm wide. They have a cog on the bottom.
Gates supposedly matches their belt lengths,
so when ordering these in pairs you should get matching length belts. 
https://www.amazon.com/Gates-XPZ1120-Metric-Power-V-Belt-Section/dp/B00CJJJU2O
Matched belts seems like a no-brainer, but some other belt manufacturers DO NOT offer this and I have had frustrating problems before with mis-matched belt pairs.

 

DAYCO TOP COG 15440 1120
I tried using the below Dayco Top Cog belts.  I like these belts because they have more inner reinforcement than the above Gates belts.

The belts I used are 1120 mm long
, Dayco PN 15440.  I ordered them through Summit Racing ($12 each).  Keep in mind that these should be matched in length and width. Some places will send you un-matched belts if you don't specifically ask for a matched pair.  You definitely don't want one belt longer (or slimmer) than the other.  It has happened to me.  So try to talk to someone in-person or by email and ask if they can send a matched pair.  Summit Racing did this for me.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dac-15440


POSITIONING AND INSTALLING THE BRACKET
Below left photo: With the alternator removed and out of the way, I positioned the bracket against the engine over the mounting holes and I inserted one SHORT original bolt into one of the holes.  This is to hold the bracket in place so it doesn't fall and knock you on the head when you let it go.  Plus it helps a lot when you're inserting the alternator bracket, spacers and long bolts one-by-one and you have only two hands.  You can remove that short bolt after getting one of the long bolts started through the alternator bracket and spacer.

Before tightening the bolts, pay close attention to the alignment of the idler pulley. It needs to be lined up and pretty close to being CENTERED on the two rear grooves of the crank pulley. Also the idler pulley should be straight, or at the same vertical angle as the crank pulley.  If you have a short bubble level you can compare the vertical angle of the crank pulley with your angle of the idler pulley.  Try to make them the same. 
 

PROPER V-BELT TENSION
Most DIY Volvo owners don't have special belt tensioning tools.  So my best technique for setting belt tension is the same 90 degree flex method that is demonstrated in this below belt video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMiB3CnZpRc

Or use this image below as a guide. It's from the 1984 240 7,500 mile maintenance service manual.
 





FITTING A UNIVERSAL HIGH-PERFORMANCE ALTERNATOR TO A 240
In August 2019 I learned that Mechman no longer offers customized alternators made to directly fit a Volvo red block. They do, however still offer a wide variety of alternators, but they just don't want to deal with customizing them for a Volvo, which you can read about below. It turns out the customizing part was actually pretty minor.
So it's certainly possible to still fit a great high-performance alternator to your Volvo.

When searching for an alternator style you can use, It's my opinion that you should look for something with mounting points similar to the original Bosch.  In other words, choose something similar to the below LEFT image as opposed to the below right image.


So then Mechman chose an alternator configured like this below. 
This particular alternator was chosen by Mechman because the mounting points were somewhat close to the Bosch mounting points.  Keep in mind that they are somewhat close, not precisely close.  It turns out that somewhat close will be just fine.

Then they altered the aluminum case at that top 2 inch thick flange by machining the back surface of that TOP 2 inch dimension. This is where your tension adjuster bracket attaches. They reduced the thickness there from 2 inches to 1.25 inches. 
There's more detail below, but that machining does NOT really HAVE to be done to fit this unit into a Volvo. I'll show you. 

Then of course they also replaced the serpentine belt pulley with a dual V-belt pulley.  That's pretty much it for any mods.



The Mechman pictured below left is believed to have originally begun as a Delco AD230 for a 1996-2013 GM truck.
The Mechman #2 that I installed later in 2019 (click here) was originally designed as a Delco CS130D for a 1998-2002 GM F-body (Camaro). 
So If you buy a Mechman alternator or a high-performance alternator from another company, you can use this information as a guide to help you find a model that will fit a Volvo. 

Lets discuss the above dimensions. 
Dimension A is the mounting flange for the Volvo alternator to engine bracket, which uses rubber bushings and a long 8 mm bolt (13 mm head).  The Bosch alternator fits just right in that bracket, but as you can see the Mechman dimension A is 3/4 inch smaller.  A spacer (or spacers) were used for the Mechman in my car and you can see that in an image HERE.

     Dimension B is the thickness of the mounting flange for the top adjuster bracket. This Mechman originally began with this flange being 2 inches thick (Dimension D)Mechman had the case custom machined so this flange was reduced to 1.25 inches thick.  That reduction brought Dimension D CLOSE to the same as the Bosch (which is 1 inch thick). This modification worked fine, but as I recall I did still need to make an adjustment to the top adjuster bracket to deal with the 1/4 inch difference. I think I probably flipped the adjuster bracket 180 degrees or I inserted the rubber bushing on the other side. There are a few tricks to make the alignment better. Ultimately it worked just fine.

Dimension C is the distance between the two mounting points. The above Mechman is 1/2 inch shorter than the Bosch. This made no difference at all. 

So, is machining an alternator case really needed?
No!  As mentioned above, it's NOT.

I did a bunch of measurements and determined that an UNMODIFIED non-Volvo alternator can be made to fit if the top tension adjuster bracket is MOVED enough. The easiest method I know to do that is to install one of my idler pulley brackets, which allows for this very thing.

If you choose an alternator which has that thicker Dimension B (such as a Delco unit for GM truck or Camaro alternator mentioned above), you COULD go to the trouble of disassembling it and having the case machined like Mechman did.    . . . Or if you don't want to do that, and if you are considering using one of my idler pulley brackets, have a look at the below images. 

These images below shows the top adjuster bracket mounted in the NORMAL location for an alternator with dimensions similar to the Bosch. So then this configuration works for a universal alternator that has been modified like Mechman did.   (Yes, that is a Bosch in this photo).
  

Now have a look at this change below. . . . 
This is a Mechman in this photo. It's possible to mount the top tension adjuster bracket to the BACK-SIDE of the bracket as shown BELOW.
As you can see, I have demonstrated this by inserting a spacer at the alternator to simulate a thicker, unmodified alternator flange (Dimension B) with a full thickness of 2 inches, like it was before it was ever machined by Mechman. So just like that, fitting an unmodified Delco style alternator is possible without a lot of fuss.
And look at how much room there is for the oil pressure sender!
   

  V-BELT PULLEYS
When considering an alternator that you think is reasonably close, the next important thing to determine is if it can be fitted with a V-belt pulley. 
Most alternators for cars made in the last 20 years will probably come by
default with a SERPENTINE belt pulley. 
V-belt pulleys are widely available for almost any alternator and you just need to make sure there's one available that you can use or there is one that you can customize if a stock one is not available.


The original 240 double V-belt pulley is made to fit 10 mm wide belts. 
The below photo shows three different double V-belt pulleys.
The left pulley is an original pulley for a Bosch (Volvo) alternator using 10 mm wide V-belts. The middle pulley is for a Delco alternator using 10 mm V-belts. The right pulley is for a Delco alternator using 13 mm wide V-belts.

  The difference does not look large in the photo, but it could make a difference if you try to use a 13 mm pulley with 10 mm belts.  It might be OK, but I prefer the correct pulley V-belt width if possible. I'm thinking it could promote BELT SLIP, however, if you decide to use a 13 mm belt pulley, let me know how it works out.

SELECTING A V-BELT PULLEY
Since I was a bit obsessive about a good fitting pulley, here's an issue that I needed to deal with when I installed the latest Mechman #2 in 2019. I'm posting this just to show that sometimes unexpected problems come along and this is how I solved this one.

The above MIDDLE Delco 10 mm pulley (same as this one below) was originally supplied by Mechman with the first Mechman #1 alternator I bought back in 2010 (
based on a Delco AD230 alternator for 1996-2013 GM truck). This pulley worked great on that Mechman.  The part number for this pulley is 24-1101 (or 241101). It can also be identified as Delco 1846787, 1964758, 1968354, 1970830, or Ford C5AZ-10344-L, C5TF-10A352-K2, C9AF-10A352-C, E4TZ-10344-B, E6SF-10A352-AA, E6SZ-10344-A, GP494, GP617, GP629. 
FYI:
This type of pulley is generally characterized by the 13 mm dimension from the back flange to the center of the first groove (refer to the pulley diagram below).

 


When Mechman shipped the latest alternator #2, which I installed in 2019 (
based on a Delco CS130D for a 1998-2002 GM F-body car), it came with the ABOVE RIGHT Delco pulley, which is made for wider 13 mm belts.  That pulley *might* be OK for 10 mm belts, but I was stubborn and decided instead I wanted a proper 10 mm pulley. 

The first thing I did was to try to fit the above middle 10 mm Delco pulley (24-1101) on the new Mechman. It did actually go on (the alternator has the same 17 mm shaft diameter), however the shaft length on the new alternator was shorter. It didn't stick out as far. That made it impossible to use that pulley in stock form.  The shorter shaft meant the 16.5 mm flange dimension in the ABOVE diagram was a bit too thick and the large nut holding the pulley on could not be threaded on enough. I was getting about 1 turn on the nut.  Not good enough.

CUSTOM SOLUTION
The solution I chose was having a 24-1101 (10 mm) pulley custom machined. This means that I had the recess cut deeper to reduce the
16.5 mm flange thickness to 12 mm. You can see the difference between this image below and the above one. That solved the problem and allowed me to use the Delco 10 mm pulley. The diagram below shows the MODIFIED dimensions for this pulley.
 
 

AND THEN I FOUND THIS ONE LATER
Here's a possible alternate 2-groove pulley I found later, but I have NOT tried.  It's made for 10 mm belts. It has a slightly larger outside diameter, 75 mm instead of 67 mm, but I think it would be worth trying if you would rather not go to the trouble of having a pulley machined/modified. I think this one could be mounted with one or two washers behind it to get the proper spacing out, away from the alternator case, since there is no flange/shoulder sticking out on the back side.
This is PN 24-3105 (or 243105).
Chrysler PN 5227174 for Chrysler 40/90, 50/120A alternators. Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth 1987-1989. It's for the same 17 mm shaft diameter, so it should fit.
If you try one of these, please let me know how it works out.


Here's a good selection of 2-groove pulleys, all machined from cold-rolled steel.
https://store.alternatorparts.com/2-groove.aspx



davebarton.com
prancingmoose.com
240turbo.com
Contact Us
Prancing Moose Stickers
Volvo Stickers
Body/Chassis/Engine Labels
New Items
Other Car Brand Stickers
Steering Wheel Labels
Center Cap Labels/Overlays
Cool Volvo Products
Grill Labels/Overlays
Volvo Wire Harnesses
Conversion Harnesses
Harness Parts/Connectors
Volvo Relays
Coil Repair Harnesses
240 Window Scrapers
740/940 Window Scrapers
Adjustable Voltage Regulators
Horn Buttons
240 Odometer Repair
740 Odometer Repair
Volvo Gauge Faces
740 Turbo/Boost Faces
240 Black Door Vinyl
850 Odometer Repair
ALTERNATOR PAGE
240 Power Mirrors - Switches
240 Oil Cooler Page
240 Fuse Panel Page
Group A Racing Volvo 242 Turbo
240 Hydraulic Clutch Fuel Pump Relay Page
240 Headlight Relay Page
Used Parts & Stuff
CRIMPING Page
240 Ignition Page
240 Headlight Page
240 Gauge and Electrical Diagrams 240 Rear End Page Yoshifab Catch Can Install 240 Mods and Fixes
Side Marker Lights Gentex Mirror Upgrade Yoshifab Drain Tube Install Modified 240 Favorites
SoCal Salvage Yards Unleaded Racing Fuel B26FT Stroker Dave's 245 Spec Page
240 Suspensions 240 Lowering Page
240 Windshield Page
240 WIPER Page
240 Big Brakes 240 Dash Top Gauge Pod Cadillac 4-Note Horn Install 240 Dynamat Install
4 Speed Fan Controller
Electric Cooling Fan Page
Tropical Fan Clutches
240 AC Page
240 VIN Page Stepper Idle Valve Page
Vacuum Diagrams Volvo Meet Photo Albums
240 Exhaust Page
EFI - Ignition PIN Function Diagrams
Favorite Links
R-Sport Apparel
Prancing Moose Apparel
Mojave Road Trail Map Page
Texas Volvo Meets and Events
Ordering Instructions Policies Payments Shopping Cart Troubleshooting
Returns Shipping


Online Payments